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four years. >> president obama said a deal is in sight and appeared at a campaign style event to remind everyone he is winning and g.o.p. is not. >> last month, republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on the wealthiest americans. the agreement currently discussed would raise those rates, raise them permanently. >> republicans suggest the event may backfire to accuse the republican of rubbing their nose in defeat. >> the president won. we know that. he won fair and square. isn't it now time to govern? >> the president was out of line with his comments at 1:30 afternoon. this is a delegate time. i think the democrats would be embased after what the president did. >> after months of the president promising a balanced approach there are only tax hikes for rich without new spending cuts. today he hinted at more tax hikes ahead. warning republicans that the future deficit reduction will not come from cuts alone. >> if they think that is the formula for how we solve this thing, they have another thing coming. that is not how it will work. >> republicans fire back
it obama says let's raise taxes instead. we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal. >> it is, absolutely. >> that's not really. >> you live in new york i live in d.c., washington, this is all causal. the reason he's talking about tax increases is to avoid the conversation and dealing with spending restraints. that's why obama does what he does. >> the reason i doubt that, grover, is because we've all done the math and we all absolutely agree on the math that you can't get out of the deficit hole we're in by taxing rich people even if you tax them
themselves for the blame game. it is in full swing now. president obama said, basically saying if we go over the cliff, he is really going to take aim at republicans more than he already has. >> they say it. their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way. the way they are behaving, their only priority is making sure tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. seems to be their only overriding unifying theme. >> now, ali, a poll shows republicans will bear more of the blame in this if we do go over the cliff. but the incentive to do something continues even if we go over the cliff. the expectation is come midnight tonight, this is not resolved, even if there isn't some sort of deal, a framework, there is still going to be work done and still be members of congress and the white house trying to wrap this up here in the next few days. >> polls show not only republicans will get the blame and the country supports the president by 2/3 in raising the taxes on the rich. in 20 years if we go over the cliff, you won't remember the name of the speaker o
boehner and barack obama and many people who know these two men feel perhaps they could have a deal. we think to the budget and debt ceiling debacle. neither john boehner and to some degree mitch mcconnell have the ability to go back to their caucuses and get them to rally behind a deal they make. has that changed or does this change as we get closer to the deadline? >> i think it will change closer to the deadline. it will require the leaders to talk to their caucuses and talk to these individual members of the senate and the house of representatives and understanding and underscoring the peril we place in the country at this moment in time and that we have to resolve these issues. american people should not count on a stalemate. we're here to do our jobs in washington and we're seeing this failure demonstrated time and again because of ideological and political and philosophical stubbornness. what about the entire country? what about the good of the country? that's what's at stake for america, and i think that members of congress individually and collectively are responsible and the l
. seinfeld. >> seinfeld. >> all right. president obama meets with top congressional leaders this afternoon with time running out to avoid the cliff. the house will be back in session on sunday to try to deal with the issue. we haven't had enough time, you know, two years. when is the last time we had a budget? >> harry reid was just -- wasn't he great yesterday talking about mitch mcconnell and the republicans? no budget. >> and more than 14,000 longshoremen could go on strike this weekend because of a contract dispute. a walkout would close cargo ports. some estimates say a strike could cost the economy $1 billion a day. which would add up. it would kind of counteract the 85 billion. but bernanke is doing 2 billion a day, right? >> more. >> 2.5, yeah. so that would take away -- we could easily rachet it up. unless the printing presses overheat at that point. let's check on the markets this morning. the futures were indicated lower based on angst. there it is worse. it was down 40 earlier, not out 62. they were down 150 at one point. came back down to 18. we're somewhere. >> between there.
against president obama for supposedly cutting medicare in the health care deal. and the ryan budget deferred all of the cuts in social security and medicare way out in the future. >> well, first of all, you're talking about social security and medicare, and the ryan budget was silent on social security. actually thought we should have talked about it. those things are always in the future. you start adjusting eligibility rates over time. >> what are the ten-year entitlement savings right now? >> well, frankly, honestly, if you did lower the age, number one, that would start right at the very end of that window. secondly, you can do -- we want means testing. we've never made any bones about that. that hits mostly upper income people. but we haven't seen it and we haven't been able to get it through. the cpi thing is another one. there's a whole variety of things you can do. they've got to be done in a bipartisan way. they've got to protect current recipients and be phased in. >> do you think that republicans -- entitlement -- >> in fact if you look at the letter speaker boehner sent
revenue than that, if not all the way up to the level in president obama's budget. finally, that an agreement would include a significant extension of unemployment benefits. remember, there are 2 million people who would lose about $300 a week if this fiscal cliff passes and there's no deal whatsoever. guys, back to you in d.c. >> all right. john harward, thanks for keeping us posted. we're about six minutes before the bell rings in the final session of 2012. let's bring in matt. good to have you with us. the futures are not too bad. we're coming off five straight losing streaks. on friday we saw the vix post the low of the session. what do you think it will happen today? >> i'm not going to put a lot of credence in the futures this morning. i think that's out of the picture for a lot of people. they didn't really notice it because it happened after the close. we're really not going to put any credence in it downstairs today. obviously everything has to do with what they're going to negotiate starting at 10:00. funny thing is, why 10:00? why are we waiting so long? this is
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